Tics not Tik Toc

[Ben Lamb]

There's decent evidence out there that permethrin exposure may be linked to infertility.

I'm 51 years old. This isn't a deterrent for my age class.

 

[Stifler]

It's alright I already got snipped. I can have permethrin

 

[Deleted member 48080]

Please provide direction to "decent evidence"

Https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/198...duced and used,, fenvalerate, cyfluthrin, etc.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0890623817302617

Human semen quality and sperm DNA damage in relation to urinary metabolites of pyrethroid insecticides

AbstractBACKGROUND. Exposure to synthetic pyrethroid insecticides is widespread, and is expected to increase among the general population due to the need t

academic.oup.com

Permethrin May Disrupt Testosterone Biosynthesis via Mitochondrial Membrane Damage of Leydig Cells in Adult Male Mouse

Permethrin, a popular synthetic pyrethroid insecticide used to control noxious insects in agriculture, forestry, households, horticulture, and public healt

academic.oup.com

 

[howl]

We have problems with Lyme's and alpha gal syndrome here. I understand keeping doxycycline to use in event of tick bite is effective for Lyme's. Alpha gal is another story.

 

[Hnthrdr]

After spraying clothes with permethrin, I like to hit my boots and pants with off before I head out, I also tuck in clothes, wear gaiters and long sleeves, ect… this seems to help

 

[VikingsGuy]

We have problems . . . alpha gal syndrome here

Ahh the good old days . . . when "manliness" was used to hide ignorance.

 

[Ben Lamb]

ttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19896529/#:~:text=Pyrethroid%20pesticides%2C%20produced%20and%20used,%2C%20fenvalerate%2C%20cyfluthrin%2C%20etc.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0890623817302617

Human semen quality and sperm DNA damage in relation to urinary metabolites of pyrethroid insecticides

AbstractBACKGROUND. Exposure to synthetic pyrethroid insecticides is widespread, and is expected to increase among the general population due to the need t

academic.oup.com

Permethrin May Disrupt Testosterone Biosynthesis via Mitochondrial Membrane Damage of Leydig Cells in Adult Male Mouse

Permethrin, a popular synthetic pyrethroid insecticide used to control noxious insects in agriculture, forestry, households, horticulture, and public healt

academic.oup.com

This is why I only use Thanos Brand Permetherin.

Thanos, cutting the populace in half right in the baby makers.

 

[Bulldog0156]

Do I have to put it straight on my balls for it to work?


Also, does it burn?

 

[ismith]

I harvested a MT turkey on opening day. When I returned home, I had at least 20 tics on me with one burrowing into my side. Bringing tics home that spread to other family members is making life difficult as a hunting enthusiast. Sitka has the Equinox Insect Repellent that advertises its ability to ward off such insects. Does this work? What other methods are proven success stories? After hunting, Do I take off all my hunting close to in a garbage sack, while traveling home? I’m at a lost.

Sitka repellent? Close? WTF did I just read?

 

[ismith]

I'm 51 years old. This isn't a deterrent for my age class.

When was the last time you sired a kid old man?

 

[Nameless Range]

Like @Fudd I have always been very hesitant about permethrin, though fertility is not a concern anymore.

My late friend Bob once pointed out that ticks in the area I live love quartz monzonite, and it’s true. A short hike west of Clancy or Jefferson City in the spring will yield a dozen in 20 minutes on the landscape.

I usually just pick any I find off of me ASAP, but I have also developed some tactics to avoid them:

1. Male pattern baldness. 18 of the last 20 years, my melon has been shorn, reducing the amount of secure habitat on my carcass.

2. An unappealing lather. Regardless of temperature, a short while into a hike. I am fairly gross, and even ticks have a threshold.

3. Adjust the viscosity of that which they seek. I typically Utilize gravy to do this, but you could really utilize any sort of byproduct of animal fat. It’s just too thick for em. This is a careful balance, as the consideration of stroke risk increases if you’re not careful.

 

[ismith]

Like @Fudd I have always been very hesitant about permethrin, though fertility is not a concern anymore.

My late friend Bob once pointed out that ticks in the area I live love quartz monzonite, and it’s true. A short hike west of Clancy or Jefferson City in the spring will yield a dozen in 20 minutes on the landscape.

I usually just pick any I find off of me ASAP, but I have also developed some tactics to avoid them:

1. Male pattern baldness. 18 of the last 20 years, my melon has been shorn, reducing the amount of secure habitat on my carcass.

2. An unappealing lather. Regardless of temperature, a short while into a hike. I am fairly gross, and even ticks have a threshold.

3. Adjust the viscosity of that which they seek. I typically Utilize gravy to do this, but you could really utilize any sort of byproduct of animal fat. It’s just too thick for em. This is a careful balance, as the consideration of stroke risk increases if you’re not careful.

 

[Ben Lamb]

When was the last time you sired a kid old man?

As a conservationist, I see no need to add to the overall population of invasive species that is humanity.

 

[Mountain Man]

I harvested a MT turkey on opening day. When I returned home, I had at least 20 tics on me with one burrowing into my side. Bringing tics home that spread to other family members is making life difficult as a hunting enthusiast. Sitka has the Equinox Insect Repellent that advertises its ability to ward off such insects. Does this work? What other methods are proven success stories? After hunting, Do I take off all my hunting close to in a garbage sack, while traveling home? I’m at a lost.

I had a similar experience after my first time turkey hunting in Virginia. I am a firm believer of permethrin treated clothing. This brand has worked well for me.

Elimitick - Tick Repellent Clothing

ElimiTick® tick repellent clothing uses Insect Shield® technology, which turns tick hunting clothing into long-lasting, effective, tick protection.

www.gamehide.com

 

[802flyfish]

We’ve been visiting family who live on a horse farm for the past two months. At the end of the day, I was pulling 20-30 ticks off both dogs. Both dogs are on an oral tick & flea medicine. After a while, I went to the store and grabbed some Sawyer permethrin and treated their coats and their beds. Very impressed by the results.

For anyone that’s really concerned about Permethrin, they use a stronger concentration then what you can buy at the store to treat human scabies/fleas.

 

[Ag_2006]

Permethrin on clothes
extra deet bug spray when its warm an they're bad
check for them periodically
Put laundry straight into washing machine when you get home or trash bag it in the field or at home if you're not washing right away.

I second this plan

 

[glass eye]

One of my customers got Lyme from a camping trip in San Diego mountains.
Doctors didn’t diagnose it until about a year late. Guy looked like death warmed over.

 

[Rzrbk]

For whatever it's worth, I was only speaking to the size of the ticks out west being easier to spot and remove, not what pathogens or diseases they can spread.

There's decent evidence out there that permethrin exposure may be linked to infertility. I have suspicion that this may have happened to me.

Everyone needs to weigh their own risks.

Ticks are on a three year life cycle. The 1'st instar (seed tick) is very small and hard to see with the naked eye. Lymes disease can transmit from mama tick to baby ticks. Thus, seed ticks (first year tick) can transmit lyme disease. If you hit a cluster of "just hatched" seed ticks it will resemble a bruise that is made up of millions of seed ticks. I grew up in a tick infested area and so know lots about ticks. Seeing folks not knowing how to remove a tick is extremely funny to me. I watched a show earlier this week where they burned the tick to make it release. I think they got confused between treatments for leeches and ticks. Also, thinking ticks are a certain size is incorrect. To my knowledge all ticks go through a three year cycle where the first year is almost microscopic in size.

Rocky Mt Spotted fever is a very serious tick-borne disease and occurs in the west. My daughter got lyme disease back in MD but we caught it early.

 

[Bullshot]

Ticks are on a three year life cycle. The 1'st instar (seed tick) is very small and hard to see with the naked eye. Lymes disease can transmit from mama tick to baby ticks. Thus, seed ticks (first year tick) can transmit lyme disease. If you hit a cluster of "just hatched" seed ticks it will resemble a bruise that is made up of millions of seed ticks. I grew up in a tick infested area and so know lots about ticks. Seeing folks not knowing how to remove a tick is extremely funny to me. I watched a show earlier this week where they burned the tick to make it release. I think they got confused between treatments for leeches and ticks. Also, thinking ticks are a certain size is incorrect. To my knowledge all ticks go through a three year cycle where the first year is almost microscopic in size.

Rocky Mt Spotted fever is a very serious tick-borne disease and occurs in the west. My daughter got lyme disease back in MD but we caught it early.

This is not accurate. 1st instar (larval) ticks do not have nor transmit Lyme disease. They must feed on an infected animal, typically a mouse, 1st. Those “dust” like, patches of newly hatched almost invisible ticks are thus very annoying (can get everywhere, even between fingers and toes) but not usually a health concern, at least for bacteria/virus transmission (alpha-gal from lone star tics may be an exception, I’m not sure). Second instar (nymph) and adult ticks most certainly can carry/spread diseases, and those nymphs in particular are still barely visible.

Chronic lyme survivor, NE outdoor worker - and very tick familiar here. I’ve consumed enough doxy for 5 lifetimes. AVOID Lyme!!